The future taoiseach didn't make a major impact in his role as health minister

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What sort of a politician is Simon Harris? What can we learn from his record? And what sort of a Taoiseach is he going to be?

Columnist Fintan O’Toole joins Hugh Linehan and Jennifer Bray to dig into the presumptive taoiseach’s record and the state of the Fine Gael party.

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