Ian Bailey denies telling media he was at murder scene

It was ‘probably unwise’ to be interviewed by Pat Kenny, Bailey tells court

Ian Bailey told the court he could not understand why a number of people had made certain statements. Photograph: Brian Lawless/PA
Ian Bailey told the court he could not understand why a number of people had made certain statements. Photograph: Brian Lawless/PA

Ian Bailey has denied he told media photographers he took photographs of the scene of the murder of French film-maker Sophie Toscan du Plantier in west Cork earlier than the time when he claims he first learned of the murder.

Mr Bailey was told that one photographer had made a statement to gardaí that Mr Bailey had told him about taking photographs at the scene at 11am on December 23rd, 1996.

A statement from another journalist concerning a conversation he had with Mr Bailey suggested Mr Bailey had visited the murder scene before the area being preserved by gardaí was extended at noon that day, Luán O Braonáin, for the State, said.

In circumstances where Mr Bailey told gardaí he only learned of the murder at 1.40pm that day, was it not reasonable, based on those statements and statement from other persons,  for gardaí to arrest him a second time in January 1998,  asked Mr O Braonáin.

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Mr Bailey said he rejected he had told journalists he had taken photographs that morning and reiterated that he had learned of the murder at 1.40pm. He had told a photographer on the afternoon on December 23rd, 1996, that he had taken photographs “earlier” but had not said 11am, he said.

He denied it may have appeared to gardaí from various matters that he had information concerning the murder that nobody else had. He had no such information, he said.

He could not understand why a number of people had made certain statements other than that they may have been “suggestible”. One man who provided statements, Bill Fuller, was a “sometime agent” whose statements should be rejected, he said.

Earlier, he agreed he told broadcaster Pat Kenny on February 14th, 1997, it was reasonable for gardaí to consider him a suspect for the murder. In hindsight, and at that particular time, it was reasonable, he said.

Mr Kenny was “a particularly clever interviewer” and it was “probably unwise” to have agreed to be interviewed by him, Mr Bailey said.

Mr O Braonáin said Mr Kenny had asked Mr Bailey, given there were scratches on Mr Bailey's arms and his history of violence towards his partner Jules Thomas, was it not reasonable for gardaí to suspect him.

Mr Bailey had agreed with Mr Kenny that it was, counsel said.

Mr Bailey, the jury heard, had also asked Mr Kenny why was his identity revealed in the media after he was released following his first arrest on February 10th, 1997.

Mr Kenny had said it was “highly unusual and irregular” for the name of a suspect to be published in the media and had added that was up to the newspapers involved.

Mr Bailey accepted he had told Mr Kenny the matters outlined but said he not consider there was any lawful basis for his arrest by gardaí either on February 10th, 1997, or January 1998. He rejected counsel’s suggestion there was “ample” basis in February 1997 for a reasonable suspicion sufficient to ground his arrest.

He also denied a suggestion he had enjoyed, and was “thriving” on being “the centre of attention” at that time.

Mr Bailey said he was working as a professional journalist at the time of the interview “and obviously I enjoyed that” but he wasn’t “thriving”.

Asked about an article in the Irish Sun, published on February 11th, 1997, which named Mr Bailey as having been arrested in connection with the murder, he agreed this lead to his giving various media interviews the next day concerning his arrest and questioning.

He did so, “rightly or wrongly”, because his home was under siege and he had been named in the media. He agreed he later sued seven media outlets for libel, lost five of those cases and won two.

He had objected to being described as a “self-confessed prime suspect” when he had never used that “perjorative” description.

He agreed he succeeded in two of the cases against the media because the organisations involved alleged he had been involved in violence against his ex wife when there was no evidence to that effect.

Asked about his second arrest in January 1998, he said he believed that was based on false claims he had intimidated Marie Farrell, a local shopkeeper in Schull whom the jury has been told will claim she was put under pressure by gardaí to make such claims.

He denied he was aware there were other grounds for that arrest, including statements by journalists and others.

Mr Bailey is under continuing cross-examination in his action against the Garda Commissioner and State arising from the investigation into the murder of Ms Toscan du Plantier.

Her body was found on the morning of December 23rd, 1996, near Toormore, Schull.

The defendants deny Mr Bailey’s claims including of wrongful arrest and conspiracy to manufacture evidence against him.

Mary Carolan

Mary Carolan

Mary Carolan is the Legal Affairs Correspondent of the Irish Times